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:Why link it to [[Superboy 147 Replica Edition]] then ''sans'' date, as you did? (Plus, as I've said before, I only go to the indicia in the event of a tie-break. The cover logo is the title the buyer sees, ergo, 9+ times out of ten, it's the real title (the exception being Legion of the Damned-style scribbles or characters' heads obscuring the logo slightly).)
 
:Why link it to [[Superboy 147 Replica Edition]] then ''sans'' date, as you did? (Plus, as I've said before, I only go to the indicia in the event of a tie-break. The cover logo is the title the buyer sees, ergo, 9+ times out of ten, it's the real title (the exception being Legion of the Damned-style scribbles or characters' heads obscuring the logo slightly).)
 
:And if it's a straight reprint, I don't see why it doesn't just link straight to [[Superboy v1 147]] - the only practical difference between that and, say, the reprinting of ''Civil War'' #1 is that the cover's not different. Sure, hellava timespan, but then ''Action Comics'' #775 was reprinted a couple of years down the line and they just noted it as a "second edition" (and yes, the ads were different) - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 13:22, 16 October 2006 (PDT)
 
:And if it's a straight reprint, I don't see why it doesn't just link straight to [[Superboy v1 147]] - the only practical difference between that and, say, the reprinting of ''Civil War'' #1 is that the cover's not different. Sure, hellava timespan, but then ''Action Comics'' #775 was reprinted a couple of years down the line and they just noted it as a "second edition" (and yes, the ads were different) - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 13:22, 16 October 2006 (PDT)
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== New Titans Annual 1995 ==
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So I was looking up some stuff on the new Sun Girl and went traipsing through some of the Teen Titans history pages. I had totally forgotten about this one. Shortly after Zero Hour, the Time Trapper appeared in the New Titans Annual #11 (1995, the "Year One" issue) where he revealed some time travel/timeline stuff to some of the Titans. [http://www.titanstower.com/source/whoswho/badteamt.html Here's the link] to the Titans page, and [http://www.comics.org/details.lasso?id=56327 here's the link] to the issue on the GCD for the issue credits (now all we have to do is figure out when it was published).  -- [[User:Mgrabois|Omnicom]] 22:43, 17 October 2006 (PDT)
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:Good catch! I never knew this one existed. According to the [http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/database/comic-details.php?comicid=21046 dcindexes site], this was shceuled to be released on April 11, 1995. That's good enough for us to position it on the page.  -- [[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 05:20, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
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== Need to split up page ==
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I'm getting time-out errors when I try to save this page, and its not saving changes. I think we're going to need to split it up. A break at either the 2000 year mark or the beginning of Legion Lost (which is almost the same spot) would both work, although the halfway point of current content is right in the middle of Legionnaires 66. Since the majority of additional content will probably come before that, we might want to break somewhat before that (assuming we only break it into 2 pages). Breaking it into three roughly equal parts with current content would place pagebreaks at around Legionnaires 52 and LSH v4 121.
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--[[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 05:09, 2 February 2007 (PST)
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:Oh, I know (I've been getting page-saving errors for a while, but it's still saving). Five years is still too much though - the page is currently 141kb. The recommended max is 32kb. That means we've got '''over four pages'''' worth squeezed onto one. Ergo the holding off until the last minute to prevent having to split the splits (and why I wasn't a fan of splitting off the series pages from it as-is - I had to redo that whole page when I filled in the [[Legion Publication History/Series/Universe Ablaze|Universe Ablaze]] page details, for instance, and the Lost/Worlds/TL summaries on this page are still missing quite a few notes even now,  and I'm pretty sure the LSHv4 & Lgs pages are "out of date".)
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:If it's four, probably base it around:
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*1994-1996
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*1997-1999
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*1999-2001
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*2002-2004
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:Since that gives at least a roughly equal split, exact points to be based around convenient break points. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 07:36, 2 February 2007 (PST)
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::I've noticed the page-saving errors for some time as well, but this is the first time that the page didn't actually save. I'm good with splitting into it four chunks. As for the series pages, when I upload a new image, I try to update them as well, although that only applies to issues that I'm currently focusing on. I use the series pages a fair amount when looking up things, and I would rather have them available even if they are not completely up-to-date. Most of them are not that big, so refreshing a given page from the main LPH page would not be unduly cumbersome. However, overall, it is a maintenance burden. Once the primary LPH is complete or as close to something that we can call complete as we are likely to get, I wouldn't anticipate the series pages being too far off from main ones. We could always add a disclaimer saying that they may be out of date compared to the main pages. --[[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 10:45, 2 February 2007 (PST)
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:The page is front-heavy, between the guest appearances & cameos recorded and  the fact that the second half is under-notated at the moment. Between Aug '94 and Oct '99 (DnA's start), is 95kb of data, while the latter half is 49kb (this doesn't include the top'n'tail of the page). As such, I'm going to split the page in five, with the Aug94-Oct99 period split in three. Not sure where the points fall exactly yet, since I'm pretty sure the Team 20 period is disproportionately heavy itself for obvious reasons- [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 16:38, 2 February 2007 (PST)

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Why pages for individual dates?

I saw that you are creating links for the publication dates fro individual comics, and was trying to figure out a way that that would be beneficial. I understand in something more general, like Wikipedia, that it might be interesting for something like comparing birthdays of all the people who have an article about them, or what events happened on the same day, but what benefit will it have for Legion Wiki? Mind you, I'm all for collecting data for statistics or overview, but I'm just having difficulty envisioning the usefulness of this. (List of all issues published throught the years on March 3rd?) Sorry if I'm being dense - perhaps you have some plan in mind. Care to enlighten? I will be happy to start adding links to the publication dates I add. --Gopher 17:15, 14 September 2006 (PDT)

It's nothing to do with actual links, it's something completely different enabled through "linking" the dates :).
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dynamic dates. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 10:20, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
Thanks, I'm glad I asked. That would obviously be useful. I'll start "linking" all my dates. --Gopher 13:07, 15 September 2006 (PDT)

Superboy 147 Replica Edition

The title from the indicia is "Superboy #147 May-June 1968 replica edition". --Gopher 05:22, 15 October 2006 (PDT)

Why link it to Superboy 147 Replica Edition then sans date, as you did? (Plus, as I've said before, I only go to the indicia in the event of a tie-break. The cover logo is the title the buyer sees, ergo, 9+ times out of ten, it's the real title (the exception being Legion of the Damned-style scribbles or characters' heads obscuring the logo slightly).)
And if it's a straight reprint, I don't see why it doesn't just link straight to Superboy v1 147 - the only practical difference between that and, say, the reprinting of Civil War #1 is that the cover's not different. Sure, hellava timespan, but then Action Comics #775 was reprinted a couple of years down the line and they just noted it as a "second edition" (and yes, the ads were different) - Reboot (SoM) talk page 13:22, 16 October 2006 (PDT)

New Titans Annual 1995

So I was looking up some stuff on the new Sun Girl and went traipsing through some of the Teen Titans history pages. I had totally forgotten about this one. Shortly after Zero Hour, the Time Trapper appeared in the New Titans Annual #11 (1995, the "Year One" issue) where he revealed some time travel/timeline stuff to some of the Titans. Here's the link to the Titans page, and here's the link to the issue on the GCD for the issue credits (now all we have to do is figure out when it was published). -- Omnicom 22:43, 17 October 2006 (PDT)

Good catch! I never knew this one existed. According to the dcindexes site, this was shceuled to be released on April 11, 1995. That's good enough for us to position it on the page. -- Gopher 05:20, 18 October 2006 (PDT)

Need to split up page

I'm getting time-out errors when I try to save this page, and its not saving changes. I think we're going to need to split it up. A break at either the 2000 year mark or the beginning of Legion Lost (which is almost the same spot) would both work, although the halfway point of current content is right in the middle of Legionnaires 66. Since the majority of additional content will probably come before that, we might want to break somewhat before that (assuming we only break it into 2 pages). Breaking it into three roughly equal parts with current content would place pagebreaks at around Legionnaires 52 and LSH v4 121. --Gopher 05:09, 2 February 2007 (PST)

Oh, I know (I've been getting page-saving errors for a while, but it's still saving). Five years is still too much though - the page is currently 141kb. The recommended max is 32kb. That means we've got over four pages' worth squeezed onto one. Ergo the holding off until the last minute to prevent having to split the splits (and why I wasn't a fan of splitting off the series pages from it as-is - I had to redo that whole page when I filled in the Universe Ablaze page details, for instance, and the Lost/Worlds/TL summaries on this page are still missing quite a few notes even now, and I'm pretty sure the LSHv4 & Lgs pages are "out of date".)
If it's four, probably base it around:
  • 1994-1996
  • 1997-1999
  • 1999-2001
  • 2002-2004
Since that gives at least a roughly equal split, exact points to be based around convenient break points. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 07:36, 2 February 2007 (PST)
I've noticed the page-saving errors for some time as well, but this is the first time that the page didn't actually save. I'm good with splitting into it four chunks. As for the series pages, when I upload a new image, I try to update them as well, although that only applies to issues that I'm currently focusing on. I use the series pages a fair amount when looking up things, and I would rather have them available even if they are not completely up-to-date. Most of them are not that big, so refreshing a given page from the main LPH page would not be unduly cumbersome. However, overall, it is a maintenance burden. Once the primary LPH is complete or as close to something that we can call complete as we are likely to get, I wouldn't anticipate the series pages being too far off from main ones. We could always add a disclaimer saying that they may be out of date compared to the main pages. --Gopher 10:45, 2 February 2007 (PST)
The page is front-heavy, between the guest appearances & cameos recorded and the fact that the second half is under-notated at the moment. Between Aug '94 and Oct '99 (DnA's start), is 95kb of data, while the latter half is 49kb (this doesn't include the top'n'tail of the page). As such, I'm going to split the page in five, with the Aug94-Oct99 period split in three. Not sure where the points fall exactly yet, since I'm pretty sure the Team 20 period is disproportionately heavy itself for obvious reasons- Reboot (SoM) talk page 16:38, 2 February 2007 (PST)