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:::OK, I bought copies of #1 and #19 (when the title supposedly changes), so I should have a definitive answer within a week or so  -- [[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 21:19, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
 
:::OK, I bought copies of #1 and #19 (when the title supposedly changes), so I should have a definitive answer within a week or so  -- [[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 21:19, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
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::::Received the issues in the mail today. Per the indicia, the title of the "As Seen on TV" series starting with #1 was simply ''Superboy''. As of issue #19, the title changed to ''The Adventures of Superboy''. To me, that clinches it that Mike has been right in referring to this series as v2 all along, and that the series we care about are v1 and v3.  It also distinguishes it from the series that started alongside LSHv2, which was called ''The New Adventures of Superboy'', since that is not an exact match to the television based series after #19.
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::::Although Overstreet is not an official authority, its the closest thing to an official reference that exists for the medium, and it seems to be fairly consistent in using the indicia title for its listings. In my opinion, the indicia should be our guideline for referring to any given title, not what is printed on the cover -- [[User:Craigopher|Gopher]] 11:41, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
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:::::On Overstreet's consistancy - take a look at the Marvel Graphic Novel mess some time if you have a chance (in summary, there are 75, Marvel numbered the first 20 on them then stopped (completely), but Overstreet number the first 38 despite there being no numbering of any sort, cover or indicia, on "21-38", and "37" and "38" don't even say MGN in the indicia, only on the cover logo) - there is no reason to treat "38" and "39" differently, and no reason to number "21"-up at all).
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:::::And, in general, I stand by what I said [[Talk:Legion_Publication_History/1994-2004#Superboy_147_Replica_Edition|here]] - the logo is blatant, the indicia practically hidden, so IMO the logo is what matters. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 12:05, 19 October 2006 (PDT)

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Thanks for reorganizing the cover image categories. The old structure was difficult to work with, and I was scratching my head on several occassions trying to figure out how to use it.

For the Superboy and Superman categories, should we break them out into v1, v2, etc? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Craigopher (talkcontribs) . Please sign on talk pages with - ~~~~

Probably, yeah. Although the Superboy: The Comic Book issue still annoys me that you're calling SB:TCB/The Adventures of Superboy "v2". - Reboot (SoM) talk page 09:29, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
I find it hard to disagree with you since it's so prominent on the cover, but (speaking from ignorance) what does the indicia say? Overstreet lists it as "2nd series" so that's how I see it. In any event, we can still call the original one "v1" regardless of how people feel about subsequent series. -- Omnicom 20:18, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
I think we had left it at last discussion that no one had a copy of Superboy: The Comic Book, so we couldn't check the indicia. If that's really its name, then it shouldn't be v2 any more than The New Adventures of Superboy should be v2. I'll see if I can find a cheap issue on eBay and settle this once and for all. As Mike mentions, though, we can still change the current category to Superboy v1 covers and figure out new categories once we have hard data. -- Gopher 20:57, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
OK, I bought copies of #1 and #19 (when the title supposedly changes), so I should have a definitive answer within a week or so -- Gopher 21:19, 12 October 2006 (PDT)
Received the issues in the mail today. Per the indicia, the title of the "As Seen on TV" series starting with #1 was simply Superboy. As of issue #19, the title changed to The Adventures of Superboy. To me, that clinches it that Mike has been right in referring to this series as v2 all along, and that the series we care about are v1 and v3. It also distinguishes it from the series that started alongside LSHv2, which was called The New Adventures of Superboy, since that is not an exact match to the television based series after #19.
Although Overstreet is not an official authority, its the closest thing to an official reference that exists for the medium, and it seems to be fairly consistent in using the indicia title for its listings. In my opinion, the indicia should be our guideline for referring to any given title, not what is printed on the cover -- Gopher 11:41, 19 October 2006 (PDT)
On Overstreet's consistancy - take a look at the Marvel Graphic Novel mess some time if you have a chance (in summary, there are 75, Marvel numbered the first 20 on them then stopped (completely), but Overstreet number the first 38 despite there being no numbering of any sort, cover or indicia, on "21-38", and "37" and "38" don't even say MGN in the indicia, only on the cover logo) - there is no reason to treat "38" and "39" differently, and no reason to number "21"-up at all).
And, in general, I stand by what I said here - the logo is blatant, the indicia practically hidden, so IMO the logo is what matters. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 12:05, 19 October 2006 (PDT)