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::::#Linking the second line rather than the first if we're going for consistancy.
 
::::#Linking the second line rather than the first if we're going for consistancy.
 
::::Primarily though, go for it. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 22:00, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
 
::::Primarily though, go for it. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot (SoM)]] <small>''[[User talk:Reboot|talk page]]''</small> 22:00, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
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:::::Close, I added something closer to what I was thinking of ([[#Option 4 expanded even more]]). In the main LPH list you have a break point by year. In this case, a breakpoint by season for the LSH show makes more sense. I deleted the series designators for the DCAU episodes since we list the series along with the episode number. As for airing order vs production order, well, it's the broadcast history. We can't help that they aired episodes out of production (and continuity) order. -- [[User:Mgrabois|Omnicom]] 23:40, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
  
 
==Options 1-4==
 
==Options 1-4==
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**D: Ben Jones; W: Amy Wolfram
 
**D: Ben Jones; W: Amy Wolfram
 
**''Story:'' When fearsome villains the Fatal Five set their sights on the newly formed Legion of Super Heroes, three of the Legion's members go back in time to get help from the greatest hero of all time: Superman. Instead they find Clark Kent, aware of his powers but not yet of his grand destiny.
 
**''Story:'' When fearsome villains the Fatal Five set their sights on the newly formed Legion of Super Heroes, three of the Legion's members go back in time to get help from the greatest hero of all time: Superman. Instead they find Clark Kent, aware of his powers but not yet of his grand destiny.
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==Option 4 expanded even more==
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|-
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|colspan="6" bgcolor="#ffe25f" align="center"|
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==DC Animated Universe (various series, 1998-2006)==
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|-
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|colspan="2"|
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|-
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|valign="top"|[[Image:NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg|150px]]
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|'''''Superman: The Animated Series'' #3.03''' (original airdate [[October 31]], 1998)
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*'''[[New Kids in Town]]'''
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**W: Stan Berkowitz, Rich Fogel; D: Butch Lukic, Dan Riba
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**''Story:'' Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
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**''Appearances:'' Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, Clark Kent
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**''Cameo Appearances:'' Ultra Boy, Apparition, Dreamer, Live Wire, etc.
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|-
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|colspan="2"|
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|-
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|valign="top"|[[Image:GSNT-Mordru.jpg|150px]]
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|'''''Justice League Unlimited'' #1.07''' (original US airdate [[September 11]], 2004)
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*'''[[Greatest Story Never Told]]'''
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**D: Dan Riba; W: Andrew Kreisberg
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**''Story:'' While the League has an epic battle in downtown Metropolis, c-list glory hound Booster Gold learns what it means to be a true hero.
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|-
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|valign="top"|[[Image:FarFromHome11.jpg|150px]]
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|'''''Justice League Unlimited'' #3.10''' (original airdate [[March 1]], 2006 (UK), first US airdate [[April 15]], 2006)
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*'''[[Far from Home]]'''
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**D: Dan Riba; W: Dwayne McDuffie (story), Paul Dini (teleplay)
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**''Story:'' On her 21st birthday, Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow are kidnapped and taken to the 31st Century by Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy of the Legion of Super-Heroes, where Supergirl is destined to embark on her very last mission -- a battle against the Fatal Five and the Legion itself.
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==Legion of Super Heroes (season 1, 2006-2007)==
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|valign="top"|[[Image:1.01 Man of Tomorrow.jpg|150px]]
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|'''''Legion of Super Heroes'' #1.01''' (original airdate [[September 23]], 2006)
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*'''[[Man of Tomorrow]]'''
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**D: Ben Jones; W: Amy Wolfram
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**''Story:'' When fearsome villains the Fatal Five set their sights on the newly formed Legion of Super Heroes, three of the Legion's members go back in time to get help from the greatest hero of all time: Superman. Instead they find Clark Kent, aware of his powers but not yet of his grand destiny.
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|-
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|colspan="6" bgcolor="#ffb84f" align="center"|
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==Legion of Super Heroes (season 2, 2007-2008)==
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|valign="top"|[[Image:1.12 Sundown Part1.jpg|150px]]
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|'''''Legion of Super Heroes'' #2.01''' (original airdate [[September 22]], 2007)
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*'''[[Man of Tomorrow]]'''
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**D: Brandon Vietti; W: Michael Jelenic
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**''Story:'' In the 41st century, the universe will be terrorized by a warrior named Imperiex.  The only person standing in the way of his plans for domination is a clone of the original Superman.  But unable to defeat Imperiex and his vast army alone, the clone travels to the 31st century to recruit history¹s greatest super hero team, the Legion, to help fight this threat.
 
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Revision as of 23:40, 21 October 2007

First thoughts

We should probably change the structure a bit to highlight the name of the series within the entries. The DCAU entries dont currently reflect that. With the current episodes listed, we could do that with a section header, although should there ever be an occasion when two series are overlapping, we'll have to re-think that. -- Gopher 06:32, 19 October 2007 (PDT)

Fairly simple - the first one is just to prefix the series title to the episode title, the other is a h3 header, ala the month headers in the LPH.
Disadvantages - 1 isn't that prominent, 2 breaks the link between the column headers and the columns to an extent.
Advantages - if intermixing becomes necessary, 1 is easier to work with, while 2 is clearly more prominient. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 12:04, 19 October 2007 (PDT)
Not sure I like Option 2. As you mention, I think it breaks up the page too much, and if we ever do have to intersperse series, I think it would be overload. I've added a couple more options. Sorry, I really need to see them side by side, so I put examples of all of them here.
  • Option 3 restructures the table rows a bit, allowing a longer series title without squeezing the other cells in that row.
  • Option 4 should look very familiar. At the risk of bringing too much sameness, it does provide internal consistency within the wiki and would be a heck of a lot easier to maintain. Much less table structure to stumble over, and we also wouldn't need the second header row for column labels. I realize now that after adding 20 or so episodes of the Legion cartoon, the latter ones will be so far away from the header that it won't be helpful. Works very well on the DVD pages, not so much on a long page of entries.
By bringing the series title into the individual entries, it might be more appropriate to add section headers for years, rather than the Series/Era mishmash I currently have. We could still color these by era, shading any individual entries that dont match the era.
-- Gopher 17:56, 19 October 2007 (PDT)
I liked Option 2 until I saw Option 4, which I like due to its internal consistency with other entries. I disagree with section header by year, though, since that would lump the second half of season 1 with the first half of season 2 of the Legion series, and other than being broadcast in the same calendar year, they really shouldn't get lumped together like that. This is one exception where it makes sense to put the section header by series and season. -- Omnicom 20:42, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
See #Option 4 expanded below, where I've sketched out a couple more - is that what you meant?
Basically, I'd be fine with that. My only concerns are fairly minor:
  1. The airing vs. production order thing, since you'd be listing 6, 5, 4, 9, 8 on the most prominent line.
  2. Linking the second line rather than the first if we're going for consistancy.
Primarily though, go for it. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 22:00, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
Close, I added something closer to what I was thinking of (#Option 4 expanded even more). In the main LPH list you have a break point by year. In this case, a breakpoint by season for the LSH show makes more sense. I deleted the series designators for the DCAU episodes since we list the series along with the episode number. As for airing order vs production order, well, it's the broadcast history. We can't help that they aired episodes out of production (and continuity) order. -- Omnicom 23:40, 21 October 2007 (PDT)

Options 1-4

Option 1
NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg Superman: The Animated Series
New Kids in Town
Butch Lukic
Dan Riba
Stan Berkowitz
Rich Fogel
October 31 1998 S:TAS 3.03
Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
Option 2

Superman: The Animated Series

NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg New Kids in Town Butch Lukic
Dan Riba
Stan Berkowitz
Rich Fogel
October 31 1998 S:TAS 3.03
Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
Option 3
NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg Superman: The Animated Series
New Kids in Town Butch Lukic
Dan Riba
Stan Berkowitz
Rich Fogel
October 31 1998 S:TAS 3.03
Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman. This version gives you less room to describe the episode, although we certainly have entries in the LPH that stretch longer than the norm. We can just valign the image and let the text extend down from there
Option 4
NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg Superman: The Animated Series #3.03 (original airdate October 31, 1998)
  • New Kids in Town
    • W: Stan Berkowitz, Rich Fogel; D: Butch Lukic, Dan Riba
    • Story: Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
    • Appearances: Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, Clark Kent
    • Cameo Appearances: Ultra Boy, Phantom Girl, Dream Girl, Lightning Lad, etc.

Option 4 expanded

DC Animated Universe

Superman: The Animated Series

NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg Superman: The Animated Series #3.03 (original airdate October 31, 1998)
  • New Kids in Town
    • W: Stan Berkowitz, Rich Fogel; D: Butch Lukic, Dan Riba
    • Story: Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
    • Appearances: Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, Clark Kent
    • Cameo Appearances: Ultra Boy, Apparition, Dreamer, Live Wire, etc.

Justice League Unlimited

GSNT-Mordru.jpg Justice League Unlimited #1.07 (original US airdate September 11, 2004)
  • Greatest Story Never Told
    • D: Dan Riba; W: Andrew Kreisberg
    • Story: While the League has an epic battle in downtown Metropolis, c-list glory hound Booster Gold learns what it means to be a true hero.
FarFromHome11.jpg Justice League Unlimited #3.10 (original airdate March 1, 2006 (UK), first US airdate April 15, 2006)
  • Far from Home
    • D: Dan Riba; W: Dwayne McDuffie (story), Paul Dini (teleplay)
    • Story: On her 21st birthday, Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow are kidnapped and taken to the 31st Century by Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy of the Legion of Super-Heroes, where Supergirl is destined to embark on her very last mission -- a battle against the Fatal Five and the Legion itself.

Legion of Super Heroes cartoon

Season 1

1.01 Man of Tomorrow.jpg Legion of Super Heroes #1.01 (original airdate September 23, 2006)
  • Man of Tomorrow
    • D: Ben Jones; W: Amy Wolfram
    • Story: When fearsome villains the Fatal Five set their sights on the newly formed Legion of Super Heroes, three of the Legion's members go back in time to get help from the greatest hero of all time: Superman. Instead they find Clark Kent, aware of his powers but not yet of his grand destiny.

Option 4 expanded even more

DC Animated Universe (various series, 1998-2006)

NewKidsInTown-LegionnairesClark.jpg Superman: The Animated Series #3.03 (original airdate October 31, 1998)
  • New Kids in Town
    • W: Stan Berkowitz, Rich Fogel; D: Butch Lukic, Dan Riba
    • Story: Brainiac travels back in time from the year 2979 to destroy a young Clark Kent before he becomes Superman.
    • Appearances: Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Chameleon Boy, Clark Kent
    • Cameo Appearances: Ultra Boy, Apparition, Dreamer, Live Wire, etc.
GSNT-Mordru.jpg Justice League Unlimited #1.07 (original US airdate September 11, 2004)
  • Greatest Story Never Told
    • D: Dan Riba; W: Andrew Kreisberg
    • Story: While the League has an epic battle in downtown Metropolis, c-list glory hound Booster Gold learns what it means to be a true hero.
FarFromHome11.jpg Justice League Unlimited #3.10 (original airdate March 1, 2006 (UK), first US airdate April 15, 2006)
  • Far from Home
    • D: Dan Riba; W: Dwayne McDuffie (story), Paul Dini (teleplay)
    • Story: On her 21st birthday, Supergirl, Green Lantern & Green Arrow are kidnapped and taken to the 31st Century by Brainiac 5 and Bouncing Boy of the Legion of Super-Heroes, where Supergirl is destined to embark on her very last mission -- a battle against the Fatal Five and the Legion itself.

Legion of Super Heroes (season 1, 2006-2007)

1.01 Man of Tomorrow.jpg Legion of Super Heroes #1.01 (original airdate September 23, 2006)
  • Man of Tomorrow
    • D: Ben Jones; W: Amy Wolfram
    • Story: When fearsome villains the Fatal Five set their sights on the newly formed Legion of Super Heroes, three of the Legion's members go back in time to get help from the greatest hero of all time: Superman. Instead they find Clark Kent, aware of his powers but not yet of his grand destiny.

Legion of Super Heroes (season 2, 2007-2008)

1.12 Sundown Part1.jpg Legion of Super Heroes #2.01 (original airdate September 22, 2007)
  • Man of Tomorrow
    • D: Brandon Vietti; W: Michael Jelenic
    • Story: In the 41st century, the universe will be terrorized by a warrior named Imperiex. The only person standing in the way of his plans for domination is a clone of the original Superman. But unable to defeat Imperiex and his vast army alone, the clone travels to the 31st century to recruit history¹s greatest super hero team, the Legion, to help fight this threat.