Talk:Puppet Planetoid

Here's another one I'm never sure how to handle. The Puppet Planetoid was used twice Pre-Crisis in "throwaway" appearances, and then showed up decades later Post-Crisis as the place Blok was killed (immediately preceding the Mordruverse story). In the Glorithverse, the only part that might have changed could have been the Satan Girl thing but we never read anything specifically about how that was rebooted for the Glorithverse. So we've got one location that exists essentially unchanged across three eras. I assume I don't need a /Post-Crisis modifier, but can this entry go in three different categories of Pre-Crisis planets, Post-Crisis planets, and Glorithverse planets? -- Omnicom 17:31, 25 July 2007 (PDT)

This is true of basically every Pre-Zero Hour entry, with the exception of the Kryptonians, Mon-El and a very few other items. Most Pre-Crisis, Post-Crisis and Glorithverse entries, once created, would basically have identical information. There are very few items for which we have actually gotten to the point of creating three or even two of the entries yet, but in a couple of instances, we simply created the Pre-Crisis one and then redirected the Post-Crisis entry to the Pre-Crisis page. If you look at the Dawnstar/Pre-Crisis page, it is categorized as Pre, Post and Glorithverse. Legion Constitution/Pre-Crisis also has the Post category.

Insistence on this "over-erafication" is one of Lightning Lad's sacred cows, and I don't think its likely to be changed anytime soon. As you have probably noticed, he and Reboot are much more focused on the Post-Zero Hour material, where making a distinction from other eras makes complete sense. Since neither of them ever work on Pre/Post/Glorithverse pages, they don't really "feel" the absurdity of making the distinction. I would just create the Pre-Crisis version and add all appropriate categories. If you like, create Post and Glorithverse pages which forward to the Pre-Crisis page, but its simpler to just omit them. -- Gopher 04:00, 26 July 2007 (PDT)

Well, **I'M** certainly focused on post-ZH material, since it's the only era I'm significantly interested in. Not true of LL, certainly, though - although he hasn't been around here much.

I think I've said this before, but the only "demand" I made when helping to set this up was that postboot stuff not be on the same pages as "other" stuff. I wasn't the one who pushed to separate the three preboot demi-eras, although there was pushing for them - especially Glorithverse - to be separated, as a reaction to the way the Help File rewrote bios to reference Valor & Laurel Gand in place of Mon-El, Superboy and Supergirl.

As I see it (and feel free to correct me, I'm shaky on some of this):

• When someone or other finally gets to the pre-Crisis/post-Crisis/Glorithverse bios, as I understand it, nearly all of them will include some sort of reference of that order, no?
• From what I understand recent developments to be (not having read the books or interviews in question), the Lightning Saga team is (a) based on pre-Crisis (b) doesn't include post-Crisis or Glorithverse material (c) is basically an alternate post-Crisis for that reason, and (d) Geoff Johns has been making noises about this version appearing regularly somewhere. If you incorporate that onto the pre-Crisis pages, you need to start sectioning up the page with "this counts for this/this doesn't" disclaimers since the progression becomes non-linear. And, if not, you're continuing the "over-erafication" by adding a sixth (comics) set of pages.

Comments? - Reboot (SoM) talk page 11:58, 26 July 2007 (PDT)