Legion Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin

Permissions

Also, one nice point about restart to a degree is that all of the spammers we have banned in the past will no longer be part of our user list. Given that we don't have a huge number of people beating a path to actually edit the site, should we consider granting edit rights by permission only? We could add a page that explains the reasons why and link it from the main page. Just a thought. - Gopher 02:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll let you guys decide about limiting permissions. I've restored the features Gerard asked for previously.--Nightcrawler 03:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

My basic thought is "We need more contributors" - especially with the damage done by the partial db loss - and anything that discourages genuine contributors Is Bad (...and if anyone's got any ideas to get additional people working here, speak up...). OTOH, I can see CG's point, but I think revoking edit rights explicit permission is a step too far, especially since NC's installed a CAPTCHA for registration.

Looking at Special:ListGroupRights, I think one possible balance might be to move the ability to create & move pages and upload files (createpage, move and upload respectively) to the Autoconfirmed group (what are the current limits on that? It's "must have been a member for X days *and* have made Y edits" as I recall, but I don't know what the defaults on X and Y are. They wouldn't need to be that high - something like 1 day and 3 edits would weed out 99% of spammers if that's all we're aiming at). Restricting editing in general to invite-only would only make sense to me with a far larger, active, existing base.

Incidentally, on spammers/vandals, there appears to be no-one with either the checkuser (check IP addresses) or lock database (which came up in the dying days of the "old" wiki) permission as far as I can see. Do you have those, NC? - Reboot (SoM) talk page 22:41, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

All points well taken. My intent is to stop spammers, not discourage contributors. I think an X days Y edits rule would do the trick. If I am a spammer and wait two days and then spam three edits, will that give me the ability to create a page? Do edits need to be approved to grant the rights? Gopher 01:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it may be possible (there's a "patrolled" flag which I have, frankly, never bothered with), but it's spambots which are the problem, not human spammers, and if they can't create a "BUY WOW GOLD" page, they'll probably give up and go away rather than waiting. If human vandals were a repeated problem, I'd look at things a bit differently. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 15:11, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"Do you have those, NC?" - I'm not sure I understand. Can you dumb that down for me? --Nightcrawler 04:35, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ah, didn't realise checkuser was an extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser

The rest, see here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser (lockdb doesn't matter much, as I say, it just came up in the last days of the "old" wiki, and I just wondered if anyone had it to lock the wiki through the interface).

And while I'm asking - "upload from URL" is meant to be available to administrators per Special:ListGroupRights, but it isn't on the upload page. Do you know what's wrong? - Reboot (SoM) talk page 23:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Move files

I was just getting used to being able to move image files and now I believe the functionality is turned off. However, I also received a weird error just before when uploading an image, which said the file didn't upload but it actually had. Have we intentionally turned off move files? Gopher 12:27, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I just looked at the error message and it wasn't about the upload. Here's what it said:

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

(SQL query hidden)

from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". Database returned error "1146: Table 'legionwo_wikidb.cu_changes' doesn't exist (localhost)".

Looks like it might be an error checking our permissions? Gopher 12:30, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I got that too repeatedly when making the skin-related changes - in each case, when I refreshed/resubmitted, it worked fine second time around. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 14:36, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

And just now when I posted that. Interestingly, it seems to have saved the first time even with the error... - Reboot (SoM) talk page 14:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Regardless of the error messages, I am not able to move image files. I uploaded a file with a typo, and now can't move it to the correct name. Gopher 22:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I moved File:LSHv5-49Solicita.jpg to File:LSHv5-49Solicit.jpg - the problem was that, while the *file* uploaded, an associated *page* wasn't created for some reason (another error?). I had to create the page before I could move it.

[And yes, it threw an error message while moving ("File "%1" already exists", IIRC). At first I thought it hadn't moved, and the move still isn't showing up in recent changes, but it clearly has.] - Reboot (SoM) talk page 00:28, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

I added the checkuser extension and the logo last night. It sounds like checkuser is the issue? However, there are multiple ways to add an extension in LocalSettings apparently. So, I've added it not in the way the page discribed it, but in the way the other features were added. Let me know if the issue still exists. --Nightcrawler 02:59, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I'm just removing it. I'll research the problem later. --Nightcrawler 03:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)