Talk:List of worlds

Not sure exactly what shape this page should take, what it should be called or what other pages should link to it. However, it would be useful to have a list of planets that links to individual pages. I've listed a few below that the Legion encounter in the early Pre-Crisis years and will continue to flesh out as I find more.

Do we need to make a distinction between versions of planets in different eras? Would a page detailing Rimbor/Pre-Crisis be very different from Rimbor/Post-Infinite Crisis? Should we have a Planets/Pre-Crisis, Planets/Post-Crisis, etc? Maybe I'm over-analyzing. Anyway, here's the beginning of the list I'm collecting.

Someone created Category:Species. Same basic questions as above, and here's a list of early pre-crisis examples.

• Planets - this should probably be called "List of Worlds" (since not everything is a planet). I recommend one list, one page per world regardless of era, and then on the individual page we can make note of any differences. Only a handful of worlds will have significant changes (Orando, Earth, Mars).

• Species - maybe "creatures" as a generic term? That covers monster-types and benign-types and makes a distinction between "human" and "non-human". However, this would also include Proty's race, Tellus's race, and all of the Super-Pets.

-- Omnicom 12:55, 12 October 2006 (PDT)

I think it would be a mistake to conflate pre-ZH, post-ZH and post-IC pages together (I accept that, in most cases, Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis/Glorithverse pages are going to be the same thing here, though it depends on the degree of retconning). The main reason for this is that absence of evidence that a planet/world (or, indeed, anything else) is different is not evidence that it is the same - are any planets evidentially the same? (Rimbor probably comes closest, but even that has differences). The way of assuming that they are is error-riddled stuff like the Legion SF&O2 "list of planets" page which cheerfully defines post-ZH Naltor as pre-ZH Naltor despite Nura being the first precog in seven generations post-ZH, who got none of the training she needed as a result until Xanthu and the Khunds (and similarly cheerily notes that all Vygrans are natural teleporters, despite the earlier, Vygra-set, Legionnaires #45 clearly stating/showing that isn't the case, and it later becoming a plot point in DnA's "pandemic" that it wasn't the case).

If there's not enough data on a world for it to get a page for a 'boot, redirect it to List of Worlds/Post-Zero Hour, etc (no problem with not using "planets", although I'm not entirely sure "Worlds" is the best alternative. Can't think of a better one though).

"Species", I created, and I certainly wouldn't want to use "creatures" since it DOESN'T cover "benign types", where species is a far more general term. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 16:14, 12 October 2006 (PDT)

Eh, your call. I don't feel strongly one way or the other, it was just a suggestion. After some further consideration, would we need a page with a list of a couple hundred worlds, or would it make more sense to make a new Category for Worlds that automatically gets populated?

Here are some examples.

* Rambat appeared in one story - does it get a separate page or does it redirect to List of Worlds (and if so, where do you put the information about it)?

* Rimbor has appeared in multiple continuities, but in each they were all pretty much the same or at least they weren't significantly different. How many entries?

* Orando has appeared in three separate continuities, all significantly different. Do all three get separate pages, or do you have one page for Orando with three sections?

-- Omnicom 20:09, 12 October 2006 (PDT)

Okay, I was *sure* I'd replied to this at the time....

Basically:

• List of/era.
• Entries on List of/era, break out to Rimbor/era if it goes to more than, say, a paragraph (i.e., in the break-out case, you'd leave an entry on the List of/era page, and have an indented Main article: Planet/era link between the heading & the top of the paragraph.
• Same as Rimbor - entries on List of/era, break out to Orando/era if it goes a little bit longer, which it probably would, I expect.

- Reboot (SoM) talk page 08:52, 10 January 2007 (PST)

Som-ahtur

The spam filter blocked this when I tried to spell the planet's name without the dash. The first four letters are a drug that spammers like to try to get you to buy. -- Omnicom 18:00, 11 August 2007 (PDT)

Is there any way we can whitelist this word so that the spam filters don't prevent us from using it? -- Gopher 08:28, 12 August 2007 (PDT)

I dropped a note to LL about it.

Basically, the way it works is that whenever we get a spambot, I put a list of words together from it before I delete the spambots' revisions and send it to LL to be added to the spam filter. Once or twice before, a word has caused problems by being part of a real word, but it's fairly easily sorted, and better to risk the occasional "false positive" than get spammed into the ground like a lot of small wikis. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 08:59, 12 August 2007 (PDT)

Soma should be allowed now. Lightning Lad talk page 13:39, 12 August 2007 (MDT)

Can we keep "Soma" blacklisted to keep the spam out but keep "soma*" (with a wild card) whitelisted? I can't think of any other word that might contain "soma" that we'd need to worry about. -- Omnicom 13:22, 12 August 2007 (PDT)

Who's Who in the LSH

What do I do with all of the retcons established in the "Who's Who in the LSH" miniseries, which came out in 1988 Post-Crisis, as related to the Pre-Crisis time frame? Many of the entries contain information that was made up for that series (for example, all of the rejected applicants from the early Adventure days were given real names, homeworlds, and histories for the first time). I think some of the information may have been used in the Glorithverse time frame. So for example, Pre-Crisis was Calamity King really E. Davis Ester of Touston or unknown? -- Omnicom 20:27, 12 August 2007 (PDT)

One method would be to mention that their identities were never established Pre-Crisis and only revealed in Who's Who. Yet another argument for combining the Pre/Post/Glorith eras into one period. -- Gopher 21:52, 12 August 2007 (PDT)

Do you mean put all Pre/Post/Glorithverse info in an entry if none of the early stuff was later contradicted? For example:

• Calamity King/Pre-Crisis: "name and home planet unknown"
• Calamity King/Post-Crisis: "E. Davis Ester of Touston"

Or, I can just use the Post-Crisis entry on the Pre-Crisis list. There are plenty of entries that would be Post-Crisis based on when the information appeared (Labyrinth as the Takron-Galtos replacement, Who's Who stuff like Touston, etc.), yet don't contradict anything Pre-Crisis because we didn't know about them Pre-Crisis. On this List of Worlds/Pre-Crisis, I can either leave Touston out completely and wait until List of Worlds/Post-Crisis (which would pretty much be a copy of Pre-Crisis with the addition of stuff like Labyrinth and the Pocket Universe Earth) comes out, or include anything that's not contradicted. -- Omnicom 23:22, 12 August 2007 (PDT)